An interesting
enough
documentary about The Marquis de Sade, correct factually, interesting
interviews,
apart from one mentioned slightly below.
But why the makers of
the
documentary
allowed their cameras to be wielded by 7-year-old children hopped up on
Coca-Cola I have no idea.
This could have turned
out to be a
brilliant documentary about the Marquis de Sade, had not every single
shot
outside the interviewing room been filmed by sufferers of vertigo.
Every single shot
filmed, on a
historic
location, at Sade's homes or the prisons where he resided, or any
footage
at all of the interesting historical de Sade documents, like the first
edition of Justine or the volume of original letters written and
received
by de Sade, were either out of focus and shot by someone who it seems
is
completely unable to hold a camera still.
How these people ever
gained
employment
working on a historical documentary I will never know. Hopefully they
will
never in their entire lives be allowed to wield a camera again.
Ok, so I get the point
that since
de Sade's work has a deal of content about voyeurism in it, that they
may
have decided to try and be clever and show themselves familiar with the
work, and therefore film the documentary, with a voyeuristic look to
it.
But this turned out to be a big mistake! Obviously they have no
interest
whatsoever in the subject they are filming, or the person they are
making
the documentary about.
Sure it's ok for them,
they get to
see the houses, the prisons the rare first edition books and the
letters
all in person and in extreme close up with their own eyes. What do we
get
to see? Blurry shit that could have as far as we can tell be of any
house
book or prison, and we would be none the wiser.
It was like watching a
documentary
about UFO's with shaky cameras and blurry footage aplenty. Now, in a
UFO
documentary you expect to see this, amateur photography of something
floating
(or not), in they sky. But a book that is sitting in front of you on a
table is not a dustbin lid in the sky, so put the camera on a bloody
tripod
and let us see the damn thing. It's not as if you are shooting the
third
instalment of The Blair Shit Project.
Why Channel Four
screened this
amateurish
trash I will never know. They should have asked for a refund of the
wages
paid to the director and the cameraman, and send someone out to film
the
thing properly.
This could have been
the
definitive
de Sade Documentary, apart from the fact that its probably better
watched
with the picture off and the sound on, this has to go down in history
as
the most nausea inducing filmed crap I have ever seen.
Next time Channel
Four, get
someone
to film the documentary who cares about the subject, and don't employ 7
year olds with litre's of Coca-Cola in their backpacks!
Now I know the title
says "prophet
or pornographer" so of course they have to interview someone who is not
a de Sade supporter but why they interviewed Andrea Dworkin I have no
idea.
The so-called "feminist writer", has not the slightest clue about the
Marquis,
his work, his life or his crimes. She states at one point she is
"outraged",
not outraged by his writing but by, the fact that he was allowed to get
away with it and his followers take him as a philosopher rather than a
pornographer.
Well let me see not
outraged by
his
work hmm? Well just exactly how much and what did she read, because
I've
read several works by the Marquis and several of them have outraged me.
That is what they are supposed to do! You are presented with some
totally
reprehensible characters in the work of the Marquis, and a great deal
of
very disgusting and vile acts. And well to be honest for someone not to
be outraged by the characters and the acts in some of the works,
basically
makes me think should we even be listening to the opinions of someone
who
is not even "outraged" or disgusted by some of the work? I mean what
kind
of heartless, detached from human suffering, kind of person would we be
listening to then huh? Not outraged by one character's actions towards
another, by one character's brutality towards another. By some of the
most
disgusting acts ever described in literature? Is making the reader
outraged
and disgusted not what a lot of the Marquis works purpose was? To show
us the brutality and hypocrisy in our less than ideal world? To make us
sit up and take notice of this, to expose this brutality and hypocrisy
to the people of his time? Forfeiting his own freedom in the process
while
doing so. What here should we be outraged about?
Then for her to say
that she
thought
Pasolini's Salo was one of "the
most disgusting movies I've ever seen, I don't know why I went to see
it"
Well fuck me sideways
with a butt
paddle! It is supposed to be the most disgusting movie you have ever
seen.
That was the Marquis' point when he wrote the book and Pasolini's point
when he made the film! Pasolini said he wanted to make a movie that was
totally "indigestible", and well let me see Miss Dworkin, ohh sorry
that
probably Ms, did you digest the film? No? I didn't think so, well
neither
did most of the people who saw it, but hey that was the fucking
point!!!!
Pasolini wanted to
draw a parallel
between then and now. The novel was written during the French
revolution.
So Pasolini sets it at the end of the Second World War. And did not
every
one at the end of the Second World War see sights that they never
thought
they would see in their lives? Were not we all shaken and disgusted to
our very core? And would not any good film about that war do the same
to
us? Certainly! When it was Pasolini's intention for us to see this,
close
to something in our own lifetime he showed us again what we saw from
1945.
And it was all documented there in the Marquis' work over 200 years
before
it happened. The selfishness the brutality of the French revolution
buried
in 120 days of Sodom to be arisen again in Salo.
Cannot we see that
that was the
point
of the author and of the filmmaker? No? Can we not then refrain from
commenting
on something we know nothing about?
As for being disgusted
by the fact
that the Marquis is lauded as a great philosopher by his biographers
and
followers, and that you say "he kidnapped women and children, and did
most
of the things he wrote about", where you get your information I do not
know.
After reading
thousands of pages
by
and about the Marquis de Sade, I have no recollection whatsoever, of
him
kidnapping women and children. And as for doing most of the things he
wrote
about. I assume you mean brutalising people. Well, it is well known
that
the Marquis was more of a masochist than a sadist. I think you are
confusing
what is literary fiction (fiction being a key word
here,
want me to look it up for you?) with biographical work. The acts of his
novels were not the acts of his life, some lesser ones yes, but as for
kidnapping women and children, I think you are confusing what is, well
what should be, his most disturbing work 120 days of Sodom, with the
mans
life.
Which I think lets us
know that
all
you have probably read of the Marquis' works, is probably snippets that
have been included in reviews or biographies. How you can read a deal
of
the Marquis' work and come out the end of it that he is just a
pornographer
and nothing else? This has to be one of the most extreme cases of
tunnel
vision in history! And hints that maybe you (sneaking yourself a peek
like
a naughty schoolboy) probably read through the books, but skipped all
the
literature and went from one naughty bit to the next. Or did you save
yourself
the time and just read the dust jacket? Or did you read the bad reviews
and the dirty bits just so you could complain about it?
Sade's worst crime for
which he
was
imprisoned was marrying Renee de Montreuil at the insistence of his
conniving
father. For which he ended up with the worst mother-in-law in history
since
Medea
and due to her face saving fanaticism, he ended up in prison under a
lettre
de cachet, issued by the King, which was issued at her askance, with
no actual crime having been committed by Sade. (Yes go on, read it
again!)
We had, or still have,
a movement
here in Scotland called SWAP, Scottish women against pornography. And
one
of this groups peeves was trying to get all newsagent's and the like
here,
to stop selling top shelf pornographic magazines. When an interviewer
asked
one of these campaigners if she knew that not one (yeah go
on read it again ) of
these
top shelf magazines, that she wanted taken of the shelves, had any
hard-core,
i.e. penetration pictures in them, she replied "ohh really, I didn't
know
that!" Well spin me round, flip me over and skull fuck me with
strap-on didlo! Nothing like doing your research there fucknugget.
So I guess again when
we get back
to someone who does not have the slightest idea what they are talking
about,
the basic hint is, go shave your fucking nuts, make love with someone,
relax and find something to talk about that you do know a little more
than
fuck all about.
Ahh
but
of course you would not have just made several thousands pounds out of
the interviews you just gave for this documentary? About a writer that
you do not like, whose works you do not like and whom you are not
interested
in? Yup well I guess that will fit you into the character of just the
type
of hypocrite de Sade would have exposed had he been here to do so.
Giovanni
Pistachio. |